Monday, February 11, 2008

First Baptist, or Church of the Arrogant

Anonymous said...

The campus at First Baptist Church of Round Rock is used by many people, members and non-members alike. Many events, meetings, and other activities are held at the campus, and not all are specific to the church. There are not enough parking lot spaces, and thus the streets are used, just as many other places around town do. Certainly, anyone should follow the rules and use common courtesy when choosing parking and drop-off sites around the church, or anywhere, for that matter. These choices, however, are made by the individual and not by First Baptist Church itself. As both a member of the church and a daily visitor to other areas in the downtown Round Rock area, I agree that improper street parking or drop-offs can cause problems for others drivers. But, please, don't blame the whole church. Come visit us instead. You'll be very welcome!

In my humble opinion, it is up to the church to set guidelines for use of its property, no matter who is doing it. That should include instructions to treat the street as a street rather than the personal property of the church.

Now, about being made to feel welcome...

In October of 1985, I left my husband and entered the Family Program at the Texas Baptist Children's Home. The Program was a life saver for me, and I mean that literally. The participants in the program were required to attend church, and I chose to go to First Baptist, where the houseparents at our cottage were members.

First Baptist conducted Sunday School classes for all ages, divided into groups. There was the Singles' group, the Young Couples' group, the Seniors' group, etc. I, being a divorced person, was shuffled into a group called "Single Again." The other groups interacted fairly often, with picnics in the park, etc. "Single Again" consisted of half a dozen sad, frightened women from the Family Program at TBCH. Period. We were never invited to participate in any extra-curricular activities such as softball and movies and picnics. I felt segregated.

Wednesdays were Mission nights. We would gather in the Sanctuary (which you call the Auditorium) and listen to a speaker from a Baptist mission in some third world country (like Japan, LOL!), who was out on the talk circuit to drum money out of the faithful. Children were sent to their Sunday School classes to discuss the missions in an age-appropriate manner. They made little banks out of milk cartons, which they covered in paper to resemble churches, and took them home to collect pennies for the missions. Each week they brought them in, and it was not more than three weeks into our attendance at these functions when my girls decided that they didn't want to go. Upon inquiry into the situation, the girls told me that the other kids went around shaking everyone's little churches to see who had brought the most pennies. Now, I was a single mom, with two kids, and I kept a roof over our heads by cleaning houses. I was hard-put enough to convince my girls that operating a cleaning service was different from being somebody's servant. We didn't have a lot of pennies for their banks. By the end of the month, if I saved them well, those pennies helped us survive. I didn't begrudge what I could spare, but having my children humiliated, with or without the knowledge of the adult in charge of the class, was not something I was really happy with. I had to figure that the adult in charge was either neglectful or complicit in this bullying.

One of the houses I cleaned belonged to a Baptist missionary couple in Japan. They were purchasing the house for their retirement, and allowing their son (or daughter...it was a long time ago and I really don't remember) and family to live there. I got to work one day, and found the yard being torn up for installation of an in-ground sprinkler system. Quite a luxury in 1986. Turned out that Mom and Pop Missionary had sent home the money for the project.

At that point, I decided that the Baptist Missions must be doing pretty well, and could probably survive without my daughters' pennies.

Top that with the sermon delivered by the pastor at the time, in which he actually said that God wants us to enjoy the good things of this earth, and that, with Faith comes Wealth (and he actually specified material wealth, not spiritual), and I had had it with your church.

In the ensuing years, I have found out that all the people I knew and liked at First Baptist now attend other churches; even, in some cases, other denominations.

No, Anonymous, I'm not buying into your spiel.

It's easy to anonymously post a criticism of my opinion. Put a name on it, and we will talk.

12 comments:

  1. You go woman!..
    AND Anonymous? Stop being such a coward,even"GOD"didn't deny himself lol obviously you don't believe in yourself the way he supposedly did..or in HIM or you wouldn't hide behind words without backing them up..lol.
    Gee Ronni, If this is the kind of people that attend that church I'm not surprised at how you were treated,not only did they deny you,and in my eyes persecute you..they deny themselves! lol
    give em'hell Ronnie..

    And sorry to be long winded..I got your comment..ty..there is a lot more behind my story..if you read anything of my yahoo you might get a better understanding. I pretty much lost everything for Eric..BUT I will say I said NO to marriage...so I have been asked. I do know he loves me BUT he does need to resolve this issue..I'm not sleeping and neither is he..we are going to have a talk tonight. we both needed time to chill some..i'm sure I will have an update to my story..
    TY for caring. I had wondered where you had gone to..
    and can I be a blog whore and ask if you would put me on your blog list?
    don't feel obligated either if you dont think i'm good enough.

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  2. OK, I added you.

    We can all be nutz together! LOL!

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  3. Ugh. Baptists. I was raised Baptist and everything you wrote regarding your experiences rings very true to me. I was from quite possibly the only divorced family in the church at the time and had similar experiences. Not a lot of generosity of spirit. This place you speak of calls their Sanctuary the Auditorium? That speaks volumes, doesn't it? They are not about providing sanctuary, but rather a stage for lecturing to an audience. And yes, the church could and should set groundrules for their parishoners (and other users of their facility) on the proper use and decorum regarding the street. But they won't, the rest of you are just sinners getting in the way of their righteousness!

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  4. Well, I can't say I'm surprised by your story, Ronni. Appalled, but not surprised.

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  5. I was in a play there, and at rehearsals, the actors brought chicken in from the place across the street, and would sit in the "auditorium" and eat while waiting for their cues.

    When I mentioned this casual attitude, they said, "Honey, of course we can relax here! This is God's living room."

    My early Church of England training would not let me raise my voice in there (except while actually performing), let alone eat chicken and fries!

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  6. You crack me up, Ronni. There is a time and place for everything.

    God's living room? That was priceless!

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  7. As a "Recovering Baptist" I am working hard to forget my own experience with those folks. There are good people in every group and the other kind as well. Dear anonymous. Why don't you suggest to the Board of Deacons that they hire off duty Police to work their parking areas during services. Many churches find a thoughtful and safe solution for everyone.
    Betty
    My Mamma would not let me eat in her Living room; Dosen't God deserve the same respect?

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  8. Hi, Betty! How are you doing?

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  9. Thanks Ronni! LOL I'm honored
    and I did update as to what's going on
    with me..and You and Heathr really made it tough on Eric! lol..I let him read both your comments! lol what a slap the two of yu gave him THANKS! it really really helped...HUGS!

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  10. The Son of a Siberian Sasquatch needs to get his act together, or lose the best thing that ever happened to him!

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  11. Thank you for that Ronnie, but I'm not sure I deserve it...I can be a real B at times..I'm far from perfect.I will say he has been on his best behavior though since he read your comments..I think it kinda gave him something close to elctro-shock therapy!
    I think I'm some what of a sadist,because I actually enjoyed the look on his face when I read them to him.. lol

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